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This question is for the ladies: Do any of you have irregular periods? I've had them for a verrrrry long time, and my doctors have all told me it's totally normal and probably because I am an active vegetarian. (Active meaning excercise). I was just wondering if anyone else out there has experienced this?
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Re: irregular periods
Wed, January 3, 2007 - 9:30 AMi havent personally, but im also on the pill so it keeps my periods pretty regular. it is true that vegetarian women are more likely to have irregular periods than non-veggies, because their diets tend to be higher in fiber, which actually causes estrogen levels to drop, resulting in more irregularity. this is why if youre on the pill or the patch, etc, you dont experience that, because its adding estrogen to your body. you can have your estrogen levels checked by your doctor, and your doctor may recommend either a diet change (not necessarily meaty, but possibly lower in fiber), or supplement, such as the patch or the pill.
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Wed, January 3, 2007 - 12:35 PMIs it dangerous to have low estrogen levels? -
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Wed, January 3, 2007 - 12:42 PMnot the levels youd get to simply by being a vegetarian. again, you may get irregular bleeding, spotting, missed periods, etc...but its not physically dangerous. -
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Wed, January 3, 2007 - 12:46 PMi should note: that lst comment depends a lot on your age. low estrogen levels later in life can contribute to low bone density, osteoporosis, etc. it could possibly result in difficult getting pregnant, too...and lower sex drive. most things to do with sex, menstruation, and/or menopause, can be affected in different ways by hormone levels. best to talk to your doctor about it if youre worried, it never hurts to ask:) -
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Wed, January 3, 2007 - 12:50 PMone more thing! (wow im ranting a lot today) low estrogen levels can also be linked to raised ldl (bad cholesterol), lowered hdl (good cholesterol), low blood pressure, depression, thin hair, poor memory, and other things, etc etc....but from everything ive read these symptoms all seem to be related more to menopause than anything diet-related. these are related to seriously low estrogen levels...nothing that a normal healthy woman would reach before menopause, so dont worry about all that:P its kinda of like all those commercials on tv...may cause this this this this this.....but its really nothing to be concerned about:)
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Wed, January 3, 2007 - 1:24 PMThank you so much for the information! I am due to see my Dr. soon for a pap. May as well ask to have my levels checked. -
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Thu, January 4, 2007 - 4:33 AMgood idea:) and good luck!
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Mon, January 28, 2008 - 11:46 AM>>low estrogen levels can also be linked to raised ldl (bad cholesterol), lowered hdl (good cholesterol), low blood pressure, <<
Reading through this thread again, I find some useful information here, like the above from Lily. I am on the other side of *the change* now, and I did not know about low estrogen levels affecting cholesterol or low blood pressure. I have always had slightly low blood pressure, it runs in my mother's side of the family. But now that I'm older, it might be lower than it was before.
Being vegetarian, I don't think any of us need to worry about having too high bad cholesterol, unless you happen to consume a lot of cheese, butter, cream or whole milk. Change to a vegan diet and you won't have to worry about bad cholesterol at all.
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Tue, January 29, 2008 - 11:04 AM"Being vegetarian, I don't think any of us need to worry about having too high bad cholesterol, unless you happen to consume a lot of cheese, butter, cream or whole milk."
CAREFUL! I actually had borderline high cholesterol. I'd been a vegetarian for a few years at the time and was thin as a rail. I also rode my bike for transportation because I didn't have a car. I didn't feel like I ate overly much cheese or dairy, but it must have been enough. I made the switch to rice milk and cut back on the dairy, not to mention adding significant amounts of whole grains to my diet. I essentially tried to start eating the way vegetarians should eat. It leveled off after that.
I just think it's unsafe to think that vegetarians are safe from high cholesterol! My doctor told me that she saw lots of vegetarians with high cholesterol. It's that damn dairy! And like I said, I didn't feel like I was eating it a lot. You can never be too careful. -
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Tue, January 29, 2008 - 2:18 PMOh, good reminder then.
When I was a vegetarian my ldl cholesterol was in the low range whenever I was tested. Now that I eat a vegan diet I don't worry about it at all. -
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Wed, January 30, 2008 - 1:38 PMThere is such a thing as GOOD cholesterol.
Don't mind me as i chirp in for the first time... :)
Cholesterol can’t dissolve in the blood. It has to be transported to and from the cells by carriers called lipoproteins. Low-density lipoprotein, or LDL, is known as “bad” cholesterol. High-density lipoprotein, or HDL, is known as “good” cholesterol. These two types of lipids, along with triglycerides and Lp(a) cholesterol, make up your total cholesterol count, which can be determined through a blood test.
LDL (Bad) Cholesterol
When too much LDL (bad) cholesterol circulates in the blood, it can slowly build up in the inner walls of the arteries that feed the heart and brain. Together with other substances, it can form plaque, a thick, hard deposit that can narrow the arteries and make them less flexible. This condition is known as atherosclerosis. If a clot forms and blocks a narrowed artery, heart attack or stroke can result.
HDL (good) Cholesterol
About one-fourth to one-third of blood cholesterol is carried by high-density lipoprotein (HDL). HDL cholesterol is known as “good” cholesterol, because high levels of HDL seem to protect against heart attack. Low levels of HDL (less than 40 mg/dL) also increase the risk of heart disease. Medical experts think that HDL tends to carry cholesterol away from the arteries and back to the liver, where it's passed from the body. Some experts believe that that HDL removes excess cholesterol from arterial plaque, thus slowing its buildup.
Triglycerides
Triglyceride is a form of fat made in the body. Elevated triglycerides can be due to overweight/obesity, physical inactivity, cigarette smoking, excess alcohol consumption and a diet very high in carbohydrates (60 percent of total calories or more). People with high triglycerides often have a high total cholesterol level, including a high LDL (bad) level and a low HDL (good) level. Many people with heart disease and/or diabetes also have high triglyceride levels.
Lp(a) Cholesterol
Lp(a) is a genetic variation of LDL (bad) cholesterol. A high level of Lp(a) is a significant risk factor for the premature development of fatty deposits in arteries. Lp(a) isn’t fully understood, but it may interact with substances found in artery walls and contribute to the buildup of fatty deposits.
Source: www.americanheart.org/presenter.jhtml
Set your target
Cholesterol levels are measured in milligrams (mg) of cholesterol per deciliter (dL) of blood. When it comes to HDL cholesterol, think high. Most people should aim for an HDL level of 60 mg/dL or above. An HDL level below 40 mg/dL increases the risk of heart disease.
For the average man, HDL cholesterol ranges from 40 to 50 mg/dL. Thanks to female sex hormones — which have a positive effect on HDL cholesterol — the average woman fares better, with HDL cholesterol ranging from 50 to 60 mg/dL. But both men and women can benefit from increasing those averages.
If you don't know your HDL level, ask your doctor for a baseline cholesterol test. If your HDL value isn't within a desirable range, your doctor may recommend lifestyle changes to boost your HDL cholesterol.
Make your lifestyle count
Your lifestyle has the single greatest impact on your HDL cholesterol. Even small changes to your daily habits can help you meet your HDL target.
* Don't smoke. Smoking lowers HDL cholesterol and increases your blood's tendency to clot. If you smoke, quit. To increase your odds of success, you might want to try more than one strategy at a time. For example, combine medication to reduce nicotine cravings with a support group or individual counseling. Talk with your doctor about your options for quitting.
* Maintain a healthy weight. Excess pounds take a toll on HDL cholesterol. But there's good news. If you're overweight, losing even a few pounds can improve your HDL level. For every 2 pounds you lose, your HDL may increase by .35 mg/dL. That's about 1 mg/dL for every 6 pounds. To keep your weight in a healthy range, focus on permanent changes to your eating and exercise habits. Motivate yourself by remembering the benefits of losing weight, such as a healthier heart, more energy and improved self-esteem.
* Get more physical activity. In one study, regular aerobic exercise increased HDL cholesterol by 3 percent to 9 percent in otherwise healthy sedentary adults. Try to get at least 30 to 60 minutes of aerobic activity on most days of the week. Better yet, exercise every day. Take a brisk daily walk. Ride your bike. Swim laps. If you can't fit in a long workout, break it up into smaller sessions spread throughout the day.
* Choose healthier fats. A healthy diet includes some fat, but there's a limit. In a heart-healthy diet, up to 25 percent to 35 percent of your total daily calories can come from fat — but saturated fat should account for less than 7 percent of your total daily calories. Avoid foods that contain trans fat, which raises LDL cholesterol and lowers HDL cholesterol. This includes many margarines, most commercial baked products and anything that contains partially hydrogenated vegetable oil. Monounsaturated fat — found in olive, peanut and canola oils — is a healthier option. Nuts, fish and other foods containing omega-3 fatty acids are other good choices.
* Drink alcohol only in moderation. In some studies, moderate use of alcohol (particularly red wine) has been linked with higher levels of HDL cholesterol — but the benefits aren't strong enough to recommend alcohol for anyone who doesn't drink already. If you choose to drink alcohol, do so in moderation. This means no more than one drink a day for women, and one to two drinks a day for men.
Source: www.mayoclinic.com/health/h...l/CL00030
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HDL Cholesterol
Wed, January 30, 2008 - 1:59 PMThis is a good topic and deserves it's own thread. :-)
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Re: irregular periods
Wed, July 4, 2007 - 12:45 AM: and lower sex drive :
Somehow that surprises me. If low estrogen levels result in a lower sex drive, and the pill adds estrogen, why does the pill cause many women to lose their libido? (Just in case someone doubts, please do some googling - you'll find statements like this: "Loss of libido, muted or non-existent orgasms and painful intercourse have long been known as side effects of the pill." Although I don't know this from personal experience, I have heard it from multiple sources, including my wife talking to women who experienced it themselves.)
I've found that M.D.s often attribute lots of things to vegetarianism. It's an easy way out for them. Unless it's a vegetarian M.D., I wouldn't pay much attention. Irregular periods have more to do with the diet in general than the mere absence of meat in it. The human body needs plenty of nutrients to function properly. When calorie intake is less than calories spent (e.g. exercising), the body goes into survival mode and the first system that shuts down is the reproductive system.
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Mon, January 8, 2007 - 11:22 AMhuh! I became more regular once I started vegetarian eating. But, I do take a one-a-day vitamin pill... -
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Mon, January 8, 2007 - 1:48 PMThat's really interesting. Are you an A blood type? I'm an O- (natural carnivore) so maybe that has something to do with it.
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Mon, January 8, 2007 - 3:19 PMKind of an aside: I had irregular periods forever. I stopped eating sugar in August 2005. It took about two months for my periods to settle down, and they've been like clockwork ever since. It's kind of mind-blowing.
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Mon, January 8, 2007 - 11:31 PMI've never ever been very regular until just recently in life - I've been told that it often works out that way after a pregnancy. Some women are just not regular, and some are like clockwork. I used to wonder what it would be like to always know what to expect every 21 days. When I was younger I'd get my period sometimes every two weeks, sometimes it would take six weeks in between... I don't know if you have any other related concerns, but I agree with the doctors, it shouldn't be something to worry about. -
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Tue, January 9, 2007 - 9:33 PMI've never been regular. I have been a vegetarian forever and being an athlete comes into all this as well. I stopped worrying about it and decided that accepting it is the way to go. I discuss it occasionally with my physician. She is interested, but not alarmed. I sometimes skip as well, which is probably due to the exercise. We are all different, after many years, I decided to just accept it.
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Thu, January 25, 2007 - 6:30 AMCheck the soy. I noticed many years ago before all the controversy about soy came out that if I drank alot of soy milk it made my cycle irregular. Obviously, now they know about the estrogen effects. Also if you are using non-organic dairy, hormones in that could be doing something. ..just a couples of ideas:)
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Tue, April 17, 2007 - 4:26 PMI have the same problem. My doctor told me that some people are just different, too. She suggested birth control just to regulate the hormones in my body.
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Tue, July 3, 2007 - 8:10 AMyeah i have every other month, 'regularly.'
and it DOES worry me
cos when i was a regular little kid
very active and eating a LOT (more than other kids, but looked the same)
my periods were significant in bloodshed
then i hit REAL puberty and stopped eating like that
and hit real academia and stopped being active like that
so i got curvier... periods were same.
but over the years every time i slimmed down some way (now with smarter diet)
my period stops (goes to every other month) and is WAY minimal in bloodshed.
it worries me.
amidst that, i became a vegetarian, and now i'm becoming more athletic.
i know i don't feed myself enough, but now i'm on the pill again so hopefully that will help.
i dont like when my body feels it has to choose between ME and my reproductive system.
cos your body is MADE to support your reproductive system, a close second to YOU.
i'm a vegetarian for spiritual reasons, but must still take care of my body...
so any suggestions on how to get an athletic vegehed to a monthly cycle
without pills.... would be much appreciated.
i'm not too fond of the phenomenon, for myself.
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Wed, July 11, 2007 - 11:58 AMThis IS a serious issue that many female vegetarians need to take much more seriously. Excersise is NOT the reason for the irregular periods it stems from the lack of iron.
Since making a personal lifestyle change over to vegetarianism 2 years ago I have experienced many problematic periods which led to a series of fribroidal issues and I am currently looking at a partial hysterectomy. I feel my not eating meat and following probably a more vegan structured eating pattern my hormones took a ride on a roller coaster. I have been up and down on the *iron* scale and as much as I increase my dark leafy greens and supplement my body with pills I cannot seem to get my number to rise above 10...we as women are to have an iron range 16 and above. You can find out about your personal range by having your doctor do a simple blood test. Press the issue and get help the sooner the better because its not just period problems that occur its fatigue, lack of sex drive and the skin on your body as well as hairloss and the condition of your hair.
What I am trying to convery in this short blog is it is very common for us to have weird periods but the message is NOT to ignore anything...get checked out as often as you can if you feel that things are not normal for you personally.
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Wed, July 11, 2007 - 1:03 PMyes i was told i had a lack of iron.
so i should stabilize myself with supplements, to fix my period? WILL DO! thank you! -
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Wed, July 11, 2007 - 1:57 PMUgh! That's not what I meant either. Damn Tribe! Just google "molasses iron". :-)
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Thu, August 23, 2007 - 1:42 AMI was completely vegetarian for about three years - but I'm very lucky because I live on a working ranch and i'm able to get fresh home grown produce as well as anything else I want basically straight from my own backyard.
The only real issue I had was getting weak. However, this could have also been due to the fact that I am very prone to infection (especially sinus and UTI), and needed treatment.
I'm not sure what your standards are for vegetarianism, but I was lacto-ovo .The eggs I ate were free range and from birds who never endured being cooped up with many other birds and massive doses of chemicals and antibiotics to keep them somewhat healthy.
I'd recommend beans and rice, some milk, and some eggs, if you consider that to be vegetarian enough for you, and see how it makes you feel.
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Thu, August 23, 2007 - 1:47 AMI lost 30 lbs when I was 18, and really started being completely vegetarian around 20. My periods got a lot lighter, and instead of lasting a heavy 6 days, they were rather scanty and lasted perhaps 2-4.
I had my iron level checked, it wasnt low, and sometimes I wonder if perhaps a massive amount of quick weight loss without becoming underweight can somehow set your hormone level back to a much lower level.
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Mon, January 28, 2008 - 5:14 AMI have noticed that my periods have got more irregular since I have been veg. (about 2 years) I don't know if there is an connection to my diet. I have poly cystic ovarian syndrome but I have been feeling worse lately. It really sucks having a irregular cycle it takes a toll on your body and you feel drained and like crap. Exercise really does help it will make things a bit more regular. -
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Mon, January 28, 2008 - 12:03 PMI also don't know if there is a connection or not between a vegetarian diet and irregularity. I stopped eating meat when I was 16. I had irregular periods all those years until I was about 46. I didn't mind the irregularity that much, except for having to always be prepared to start my period. That was a hassle when I was on vacation or backpacking, always having to bring supplies with me, since it could start anytime. But I didn't notice any other problems with it. Of course I didn't have a regular cycle ever to compare it to. I did take iron supplements most of my life. I was too lazy to try and get enough iron from my food which is, of course, better.
I must say though, not having periods at all is really great. It makes the hot flashes and other symptoms one goes through during *the change* worth it. Freedom at last. :-)!
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Wed, January 30, 2008 - 11:06 AMActually, it's been the opposite for me. My moontimes have been very predicible, and without cramps, bloating, etc. The only times I've gotten cramps would be months when I've eaten meat. That's been the case for 36 years. Now I'm starting menopause, so I'm no longer regular. I would suggest spending more time in the moonlight, and less time in artificial light at night. -
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Wed, January 30, 2008 - 12:48 PM>>>I would suggest spending more time in the moonlight, and less time in artificial light at night.<<<
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Wed, January 30, 2008 - 1:45 PMIt is the natural tendency for a woman's cycle to be in sync with the Moon, but in our modern culture, we are seperated from the cycles of nature. I was suggesting ways to connect. For more information, read books by herbalists like Rosemary Gladstar or Susun Weed. -
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Wed, January 30, 2008 - 2:14 PMSeemed like hippie mumbo jumbo to me... but I gave you the benefit of the doubt and looked into it a bit...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunaception
Maybe there is something to it. Why do other mammals have different menstrual cycle periods then? Chimpanzees are 37 days, for example, and they are pretty close to humans from a biological standpoint, and aren't exposed to any artificial light (in the wild anyway). Seems to me like it might just be a coincidence, given that no one has ever re-produced the experiment discussed in that wiki link above... -
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Wed, January 30, 2008 - 4:27 PMBut Matt, you're not a woman, as far as I can tell, so I wouldn't really expect you to understand the connection between women and the Moon. -
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Thu, January 31, 2008 - 8:10 AMlol
The synodic rotation period of the sun is also about 28 days, maybe that's why?! -
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Mon, February 4, 2008 - 2:12 AMmy ex's periods stopped completely when we went back-packing. Over a 'period' of 9 months travel they became less and less untill they stopped altogether.
We read up about it and found that if you are unsettled i.e. not in an environment where you would be able to give birth and look after a new born, your body can just turn them off.
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Wed, April 15, 2009 - 12:53 AMSo I notice no one has posted on this in a while, but I'm new here and have been having some of these issues that were brought up, so I thought I'd throw my two cents in, just in case anyone is still reading...
I'm 20 and I've been a vegetarian for about 15 months now (fish-less for 12). Before I was a vegetarian I always had VERY regular periods, minimal cramping (hardly any really), and borderline low iron levels, but not low enough to prevent me from donating blood four months before the vegetarian switch. I had twice in the year prior been turned away, however, for having too low iron levels. Then though, within two months of donating blood, a blood test (for unrelated reasons) turned up anemic.
Then in December-January of 07-08 I stopped eating red meat all together (not smart with the anemia, I know) and really just ate chicken, turkey, or fish. This wasn't a huge change for me because I never liked red meat or pork, so I'd never eaten them in extensive amounts before. However, I had a period due in early January (around the 10th I think). I didn't get it, and freaked out because I'd never been late before. When I went back to school a week later, I got it right away (exactly a week late I believe), and this is also when I cut chicken out of my diet as well. At this point, I was a vegetarian who might eat fish once or twice a week at best.
From that point on through the next three or four months, my periods were to the day a week late. So I just adapted to a five-week cycle instead of four and things went pretty well. However, I also started getting REALLY uncomfortable cramping. Then in May, it went another week late, and came about 6 weeks after the start of the prior one.
And then in June and through the summer, it went back to four weeks. I really didn't understand. I figured I was probably eating better (I was working at a summer camp where I actually ate three balanced meals a day (though still vegetarian) and I probably got better nutritional value out of that than what I'd been eating at school from January-May). Not to mention I was partaking in much more physical activity than in usual for me... 0:-)
But then, of course, come September when I was back at school, I was right back to a five-week (ish) schedule with HORRIBLE cramping, but now it's completely unpredictable. It's April now, and I haven't been able to predict my period since the fall semester started at the beginning of September. Last one was around 6 weeks in between, I'm currently at the five week mark and feel like I should get it, but it hasn't come. I have, however, had really bad cramps today, periodic nausea ranging in severity for the last week, usually right after eating, but today it was an hour or so later when I was just sitting in my room. My breasts have felt kind of swollen for about 3 or 4 days now and in the past, this has occurred anywhere from a day or two before the onset of my period to a full week, having subsided by the time I actually start my period. However, I have NEVER had period-like cramps occur other than on the first or second day of my period itself, so I'm a little unsure what to think.
I'm 99.99% sure I'm not pregnant (though I haven't taken a test). Sometimes I feel like I've been moodier than usual (but I was never really a big believer in such things as PMS, so I don't know if I'm just imagining it, or I've just have an irritating last couple of weeks), I tend to have strange fluctuations in temperature comfort.
I don't know if it's strictly dietary (I was already at least somewhat anemic and vegetarianism hasn't helped that by any means) or if anything else is wrong...or if anything is wrong at all. I've considered going on birth control because of the bad cramping, and usually my periods are really heavy for the second and third days...something that the doctor said would worsen my anemia. But again, I never noticed abnormally heavy periods until the bad cramping and irregularity began.
So I don't know...any recommendations? Should I talk to someone just to make sure that there's nothing wrong BESIDES the iron-deficiency (not that this isn't a big problem itself, but I'm at least aware of it)? Whenever I go longer than expected, I consider talking to the health office on campus to see about my iron levels...but then it comes again soon after and I don't worry about it for another month.
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Re: irregular periods
Wed, April 15, 2009 - 9:49 AMWhen I had periods (I'm past that part of my life, now) they were irregular in a regular way. They were usually only 3 weeks apart, and they'd last 6 or 7 days. That means I spent one third of my fertile life bleeding, it sucked! Sometimes they'd be the usual 28 days apart, but not often. There are so many factors that can cause irregularity, and in some women it's going to happen regardless of what they eat or don't eat. I can't say what is happening in your case, of course, but my feeling is that it doesn't have much to do with being a vegetarian or not.
I was also a little anemic, doctors would tell me, when I had my blood tested. There are ways to get iron besides red meat if you want more iron in your diet.
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Thu, July 16, 2009 - 8:02 PMI hope you have saw an gyno by no. It could be a number of things from fibroids to an std.