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Hi all
i have just discovered that i might be soy protein intolerant. I've been vegetarian for over 18 months and will not go back but when i switched i moved onto "fake meats" as i still like meat meals, schnitzel, sausages, curries, shepherds pie but now all of those are out also as they contain textured vegetable protein.
I understand potato and pumpkins curries, and nutmeat (although im still testing to see if i can eat that) but now that a large part of my diet is out I've lost most meals i eat. does anyone know non soy meat substitutes? can you really just use potatoes in meals like stronganoff? is there a schnitzel that can be made without meat or soy/textured vegetable protein? the only sausages i've eaten that aren't soy aren't nice and fall apart when you touch them so won't work in meals like devellied sausages.
by the way im not that great a cook but wouldnt be scared to learn. the truth is that my meals generally involve a meat substitues and packet sauces.
Has anyone got ideas or is anyone else in the same situation?
i have just discovered that i might be soy protein intolerant. I've been vegetarian for over 18 months and will not go back but when i switched i moved onto "fake meats" as i still like meat meals, schnitzel, sausages, curries, shepherds pie but now all of those are out also as they contain textured vegetable protein.
I understand potato and pumpkins curries, and nutmeat (although im still testing to see if i can eat that) but now that a large part of my diet is out I've lost most meals i eat. does anyone know non soy meat substitutes? can you really just use potatoes in meals like stronganoff? is there a schnitzel that can be made without meat or soy/textured vegetable protein? the only sausages i've eaten that aren't soy aren't nice and fall apart when you touch them so won't work in meals like devellied sausages.
by the way im not that great a cook but wouldnt be scared to learn. the truth is that my meals generally involve a meat substitues and packet sauces.
Has anyone got ideas or is anyone else in the same situation?
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Re: soy intolerance
Tue, December 16, 2008 - 1:52 AMOne thing you can try is wheat gluten, or seitan. You can cook it at home, but it's easier to buy it ready made and add it to the dishes you are used to making as its "meat" ingredient. I think you can even find it prepared to seem like chicken pieces or other meats. Some vegetarian Chinese restaurants use fake meats made from wheat gluten in their dishes. I remember seeing it available to buy in bulk, but I don't remember where now. The type of seitan (glutens) that Chinese restaurants use is available to buy somewhere, I'm pretty sure.
I've just located one website that you might find helpful about wheat gluten, or seitan:
www.vrg.org/recipes/vjseitan.htm
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Re: soy intolerance
Tue, December 16, 2008 - 2:04 AMHello there,
In Italy they have made seitan into an art...., (I am not saying this for other reason apart from the fact that is true, I really don't feel as if I am italian or from any other place), but just because good things should be available anywhere.
I have traveled a lot around the world and whenever I found seitan it is always a sad looking box with a quite nasty product inside and a bunch of people that do not like it. But I came to realize that talking about seitan is a bit like talking about cheese, there are a ton of different cheeses, unless the chance is given to us to try more than one we can't know whether we like it or not. Some of it can be really wonderful, I have had many dinners with friends at my house and they did consider becoming vegetarian after trying something that could easily replace meat in flavor, consistency, and nutritional values; (seitan can have up to 40% of proteins and is rich in iron)
I will add a link of some kinds of seitan from my favorite brand, and the link to a big European distributor, you may be able to get a hold of some through your store. good luck...
www.kigroup.com/catalogo/m...vita/seitan -
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Re: soy intolerance
Tue, December 16, 2008 - 2:14 AMThanks for the information and link Gio. I remembered you talking about the good seitan you are able to get where you live and was hoping you'd have a response for petmor.
Your post showed up double, and so I removed the duplicate.
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Re: soy intolerance
Tue, December 16, 2008 - 2:24 AMI suggest you return to eating meat. It's too much of a hardship otherwise. You're liable to endanger your heath. Not even meat is a complete protein. So don't expect wheat gluten to be either. No one will blame you for murder. -
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Re: soy intolerance
Tue, December 16, 2008 - 3:15 AMBill, you came to this tribe just to dis vegetarians? It seems that way.
Complete protein is an old fashioned concept. One doesn't need to look for "complete" protein. There is protein in all sorts of foods, some have higher concentration than others. The original poster wants to be vegetarian, and we don't know his reasons. If he doesn't want to eat meat he does not need to eat soy. One can get high protein from beans and lentil dishes. Nuts, too. But if someone wants to eat something resembling meat seitan is a good choice.
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Re: soy intolerance
Tue, December 16, 2008 - 11:58 PMthe "meat is murder" arguement isn't the only reason why I went veg. there are heaps of others. thanks for thinking me important enough try and bait though. makes me feel important.
to the others, thanks for the seitan links i'll look into it.
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